Verbesserungsvorschläge für den Ocean

Zitat von Toppmoeller

Hallo,

ich hatte letzte Woche mal meine Verbesserungsvorschlage & Erfahrungen nach 20 Tagen & 840km mal direkt an den Support geschrieben mit der Bitte um Weiterleitung (was sie auch gemacht haben). Ich habe es in English gemacht, weil ich davon ausgegangen bin, dass die entsprechende Stelle in Kalifornien sitzt. Hier die Mail (wer es auf dt. haben will, der melde sich):

First of all I have to say that the software of the Ocean is much better as I have expected. You have done a good job, it is stable and it works in most areas & days fine. I have done now over 840km so it is time for a conclusion. I have Version ICC390039-APK-1.1.37, which might be something between 1.11 ½ & 2.0 1/3, because I have already trip display with 4 tabs including Minutes/Duration & consumption of kWh.

Version 1 – Feb/Mar 24

The improvements I have to mention a really minor things and a lot of them you may already know and it is not a ranking:

• The cameras – I drive in my garage and also in a lot of parking lots forward in. But the cameras – even if I stand – on the front side can not be activated directly. You can with a simple click on the screen activate the camera but only surround and back, you can not switch. So I have change in R(or P)-Mode, switch the camera to front side (or mixed front) and change back to D-Mode.
• The navigation – when I select a target the system calculate one/best way to go there. Might it be possible to calculate & show 1-2 alternatives to choice. I enjoy this from other navigation systems. Background is that in my home region is always a lot of traffic jam and to see alternatives helps in the decision.
• Clock – The time is displayed. But there are no further display / usage option. I would like to have in a later version a stopwatch. And maybe also a alarm watch which reminds you for e.g. a call.
• Consumption I – In Germany we are familiar with a display of consumption by 100 kilometers, therefore I prefer to see 28,57 kWh/100km instead of 0,3 kWh/km. And in the format with 2 digits after the dot/comma.
• Consumption II – I would like to see a display of a current consumption in the main screen 32,27 (kWh/100km) or/and 5,45 km / 1%. Where I think at least the second one should be easily done each % going down.
• Consumption III /Trip-Display – There is one Tab for the actual drive, which includes the duration. That should f.m.p.o.v. be shown in the format hh:mm (:ss) and not only minutes. And the time where car is in P-Mode should not be recorded/count.
• Tinkle /Ring -> Shortcut – There are 2 features in the settings that courses a lot of tinkles/rings during the drive. As long as I’m in areas where I know the streets I prefer to drive silent and switch them off. But with the next drive they are active again. I know that same regulars (by public) force you to this kind of behaviour. The topics are FI-Pilot (speed) and lane assist (Voice). To make this more user friendly I suggest a shortcut option you can store on the central main sceen. The user can record a sequence of clicks and save with a name. This will lead to an Icon on the main screen you can select & run/execute.
• Loss of load – by my first loading I loaded from 52% -> 84%, the app displays quantity of 40,3kWh. But calculation 32% leads to 34,08kWh. So that might be indicating a loss of load of around 15%. That should be reduced, because here later on I have to pay for something I can not use. The next ones were better with 2,94% / 8,09% / 4,78%, but even a difference.
• Phonebook / Navigation – If you select an entry in your phone on the screen is shown the name, the telephone number and the address (if maintained). With one click you can call. But although the icon is there you can not use the address for navigation directly.
• Apps / Amazon - That you have already created in general this feature with YouTube, …, Amazon is one of the topics which shows what wonderful ideas has been integrated in this car. (marvelous !) With amazon as German user there is one function (partly) not working. I can switch the currency, the country and logon with my user. So the software is prepared for shopping. But I can not watch a/all films, but a lot of series. I think this has to do that you are using a web-gateway somewhere in US and then amazon checks the license for playing a film. And in this combination it do not run the film. So will it be possible to setup also the country of gateway ? Amazon has also an music area which you can use. This feature/App should be place together with Radio & Bluetooth-Music.
• USB – Okay, 1 topic I really miss is the connectivity of USB to play music. Maybe I am a little bit old fashioned, but I hope that in 3.0 / 4.0 this will be possible. Although DAB-Radio & Bluetooth (IPhone) – Source is welcome too and playing very well. The sound is great.
• The odometer and the cumulated kilometers from the day trip tile divergence. From my point of view it looks like that the kilometer field in the odometers has internal no digit after the dot/decimal-point and the kilometer of a trip is with the following integer added into. It should be rounded only for display in the odometer. See details in the attached excel file.
• Also the consumption between the calculation in the daily trip tab and the same by % shows differences. And when you always load to 80% you have a third figure. Can the calculation not closer be together? Please have a look to the attached excel file.
• Drivers display – I prefer that it shows only the most important information(s). But I would add one the kilometers (total) from the odometer and not only the (remaining) range. So you can easily add those two figures together or calculate by “own memory” the consumption KM/%.
• Navigation tone – It looks like that it can only be changed with it speaks to the driver. Due to the fact that this sequence is usually short I prefer in addition in the settings menu a option to setup by start the engine and check it directly.
• Bad weather & Assistance systems - at 11.Mar I made my first experience with something a lot of users mentioned / complain about. It was already dark, it rains outside, inside it was fogging. In this combination which is indeed from a computer not easy to handle / analyze the lane assist and the brake assist very often beeps & comes up with an error. I hope that this will be better in the future. In the situation I was not able to shut both off, which had stopped the beeping.
  

Do I not complain about errors/warnings?

Not really, yes there were already 5.

But they disappeared by time.

They were:

• ADAS-error: The system prompts with an ADAS-error (I do not know the English abbreviation), I did a soft reset, but it was still there. I closed the car and go away (not because I have to). As I return for the next drive at the same day it was fine.
• Camera to back – On the 4^th day I had 2-times the back camera not display the situation behind me. In both times with the next drive and cleaning with the finger the camera it disappears.
• Navigation tone – on 29^th February all travels the navigation was not hearable. I have checked the loudspeaker symbol on the navigation screen that was okay. And also checked the loudness level, also okay. Next day it was again working well.
• Reading light – behind right seat. At 2-3 days the reading light switches on while driving although no person was sitting there. Mostly it was possible to switch it off in the bar over my head. But once it was also not. Also here next day it was fine/disappeared.
• Light / System out / shut down – At the 10th for the 2^nd or 3^rd time I had the effect, that the car after the setup 30 sec. do not switch the lights off and shut down. I wait a while and if it is still I open the car and close again. At that day I need to put in R-Mode and set back to P-Mode and go out and close. Than the car shut down. And yesterday nothing helps, so I put the car in deep sleep.

What was the most positive things beside the 3-4 things that the Ocean has as unique features, I have to mention:

• I drove once with an mobile home (trailer) and I was fascinated how stable the car goes. And which reserve it has. The consumption of 35 kWh/100km was okay.
• Although I can (by software) not measure the income of the solar roof, I have seen that while parking up to 7 kilometers were added to the range. And this in March!
• Vampire drain – I had the highest VD of 2% (on 1 day), already 4 nights 0%, the rest of the 18 days 1%, lower than suspected
• Consumption – Average by daily trips 31,45kWh; Minimum 25,7 ; Max. once 41 – less than a lot of other users; a stable 20-25 is welcome, but for March okay
• Sound – The sound of the music is marvelous
• California Mode / Solar roof – Open it and the sunshine comes into your mind! Can not wait for summer… 😊

Kind regards

(Toppmoeller)

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Zitat von Toppmoeller

Hallo,

ich hatte letzte Woche mal meine Verbesserungsvorschlage & Erfahrungen nach 20 Tagen & 840km mal direkt an den Support geschrieben mit der Bitte um Weiterleitung (was sie auch gemacht haben). Ich habe es in English gemacht, weil ich davon ausgegangen bin, dass die entsprechende Stelle in Kalifornien sitzt. Hier die Mail (wer es auf dt. haben will, der melde sich):

First of all I have to say that the software of the Ocean is much better as I have expected. You have done a good job, it is stable and it works in most areas & days fine. I have done now over 840km so it is time for a conclusion. I have Version ICC390039-APK-1.1.37, which might be something between 1.11 ½ & 2.0 1/3, because I have already trip display with 4 tabs including Minutes/Duration & consumption of kWh.

Version 1 – Feb/Mar 24

The improvements I have to mention a really minor things and a lot of them you may already know and it is not a ranking:

• The cameras – I drive in my garage and also in a lot of parking lots forward in. But the cameras – even if I stand – on the front side can not be activated directly. You can with a simple click on the screen activate the camera but only surround and back, you can not switch. So I have change in R(or P)-Mode, switch the camera to front side (or mixed front) and change back to D-Mode.
• The navigation – when I select a target the system calculate one/best way to go there. Might it be possible to calculate & show 1-2 alternatives to choice. I enjoy this from other navigation systems. Background is that in my home region is always a lot of traffic jam and to see alternatives helps in the decision.
• Clock – The time is displayed. But there are no further display / usage option. I would like to have in a later version a stopwatch. And maybe also a alarm watch which reminds you for e.g. a call.
• Consumption I – In Germany we are familiar with a display of consumption by 100 kilometers, therefore I prefer to see 28,57 kWh/100km instead of 0,3 kWh/km. And in the format with 2 digits after the dot/comma.
• Consumption II – I would like to see a display of a current consumption in the main screen 32,27 (kWh/100km) or/and 5,45 km / 1%. Where I think at least the second one should be easily done each % going down.
• Consumption III /Trip-Display – There is one Tab for the actual drive, which includes the duration. That should f.m.p.o.v. be shown in the format hh:mm (:ss) and not only minutes. And the time where car is in P-Mode should not be recorded/count.
• Tinkle /Ring -> Shortcut – There are 2 features in the settings that courses a lot of tinkles/rings during the drive. As long as I’m in areas where I know the streets I prefer to drive silent and switch them off. But with the next drive they are active again. I know that same regulars (by public) force you to this kind of behaviour. The topics are FI-Pilot (speed) and lane assist (Voice). To make this more user friendly I suggest a shortcut option you can store on the central main sceen. The user can record a sequence of clicks and save with a name. This will lead to an Icon on the main screen you can select & run/execute.
• Loss of load – by my first loading I loaded from 52% -> 84%, the app displays quantity of 40,3kWh. But calculation 32% leads to 34,08kWh. So that might be indicating a loss of load of around 15%. That should be reduced, because here later on I have to pay for something I can not use. The next ones were better with 2,94% / 8,09% / 4,78%, but even a difference.
• Phonebook / Navigation – If you select an entry in your phone on the screen is shown the name, the telephone number and the address (if maintained). With one click you can call. But although the icon is there you can not use the address for navigation directly.
• Apps / Amazon - That you have already created in general this feature with YouTube, …, Amazon is one of the topics which shows what wonderful ideas has been integrated in this car. (marvelous !) With amazon as German user there is one function (partly) not working. I can switch the currency, the country and logon with my user. So the software is prepared for shopping. But I can not watch a/all films, but a lot of series. I think this has to do that you are using a web-gateway somewhere in US and then amazon checks the license for playing a film. And in this combination it do not run the film. So will it be possible to setup also the country of gateway ? Amazon has also an music area which you can use. This feature/App should be place together with Radio & Bluetooth-Music.
• USB – Okay, 1 topic I really miss is the connectivity of USB to play music. Maybe I am a little bit old fashioned, but I hope that in 3.0 / 4.0 this will be possible. Although DAB-Radio & Bluetooth (IPhone) – Source is welcome too and playing very well. The sound is great.
• The odometer and the cumulated kilometers from the day trip tile divergence. From my point of view it looks like that the kilometer field in the odometers has internal no digit after the dot/decimal-point and the kilometer of a trip is with the following integer added into. It should be rounded only for display in the odometer. See details in the attached excel file.
• Also the consumption between the calculation in the daily trip tab and the same by % shows differences. And when you always load to 80% you have a third figure. Can the calculation not closer be together? Please have a look to the attached excel file.
• Drivers display – I prefer that it shows only the most important information(s). But I would add one the kilometers (total) from the odometer and not only the (remaining) range. So you can easily add those two figures together or calculate by “own memory” the consumption KM/%.
• Navigation tone – It looks like that it can only be changed with it speaks to the driver. Due to the fact that this sequence is usually short I prefer in addition in the settings menu a option to setup by start the engine and check it directly.
• Bad weather & Assistance systems - at 11.Mar I made my first experience with something a lot of users mentioned / complain about. It was already dark, it rains outside, inside it was fogging. In this combination which is indeed from a computer not easy to handle / analyze the lane assist and the brake assist very often beeps & comes up with an error. I hope that this will be better in the future. In the situation I was not able to shut both off, which had stopped the beeping.
  

Do I not complain about errors/warnings?

Not really, yes there were already 5.

But they disappeared by time.

They were:

• ADAS-error: The system prompts with an ADAS-error (I do not know the English abbreviation), I did a soft reset, but it was still there. I closed the car and go away (not because I have to). As I return for the next drive at the same day it was fine.
• Camera to back – On the 4^th day I had 2-times the back camera not display the situation behind me. In both times with the next drive and cleaning with the finger the camera it disappears.
• Navigation tone – on 29^th February all travels the navigation was not hearable. I have checked the loudspeaker symbol on the navigation screen that was okay. And also checked the loudness level, also okay. Next day it was again working well.
• Reading light – behind right seat. At 2-3 days the reading light switches on while driving although no person was sitting there. Mostly it was possible to switch it off in the bar over my head. But once it was also not. Also here next day it was fine/disappeared.
• Light / System out / shut down – At the 10th for the 2^nd or 3^rd time I had the effect, that the car after the setup 30 sec. do not switch the lights off and shut down. I wait a while and if it is still I open the car and close again. At that day I need to put in R-Mode and set back to P-Mode and go out and close. Than the car shut down. And yesterday nothing helps, so I put the car in deep sleep.

What was the most positive things beside the 3-4 things that the Ocean has as unique features, I have to mention:

• I drove once with an mobile home (trailer) and I was fascinated how stable the car goes. And which reserve it has. The consumption of 35 kWh/100km was okay.
• Although I can (by software) not measure the income of the solar roof, I have seen that while parking up to 7 kilometers were added to the range. And this in March!
• Vampire drain – I had the highest VD of 2% (on 1 day), already 4 nights 0%, the rest of the 18 days 1%, lower than suspected
• Consumption – Average by daily trips 31,45kWh; Minimum 25,7 ; Max. once 41 – less than a lot of other users; a stable 20-25 is welcome, but for March okay
• Sound – The sound of the music is marvelous
• California Mode / Solar roof – Open it and the sunshine comes into your mind! Can not wait for summer… 😊

Kind regards

(Toppmoeller)

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Sauber Toppmoeller, man sieht, Du hast dich in den Ocean verknallt, sonst würdest Du nicht so viel Zeit investieren. Die Sache, über USB Musik abzuspielen, habe ich angemahnt. Lt.Fisker will man vermeiden, daß Viren eingespielt werden. Vielleicht funktioniert es ja demnächst über eine Sprachsteuerung, sofern der Atem lang genug ist.

Warum möchtet ihr Musik vom USB Stick spielen ? Ist das nicht ein bissel Opel, oder besser Steinzeit.

Der amerikanische Lifestyle ist einsteigen , Mobile ablegen, Oh da ist ein Platz vorgesehen, really, ....und dann schick essen fahren.

Musik kommt durch die Luft, und wenn ihr darüber nachdenkt dann gefällt euch das auch, was ihr benötigt ist ein iPhone und itunes, das kann alles da drauf.

Spotify sollte auch in den Fisker.

Zitat von EF-Fisker

Warum möchtet ihr Musik vom USB Stick spielen ? Ist das nicht ein bissel Opel, oder besser Steinzeit.

Der amerikanische Lifestyle ist einsteigen , Mobile ablegen, Oh da ist ein Platz vorgesehen, really, ....und dann schick essen fahren.

Musik kommt durch die Luft, und wenn ihr darüber nachdenkt dann gefällt euch das auch, was ihr benötigt ist ein iPhone und itunes, das kann alles da drauf.

Spotify sollte auch in den Fisker.

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also schwierig wäre es nicht es zu implementieren über usb seine playlists und photos usw.zu übertragen.der amerikanische lifestyle geht mir eigentlich am ar... vorbei.ich leb den rheintaler lifestyle.handy liegt in irgeneiner schublade(meistens zuhause) dann fahr ich in ein tal oder aufn berg wo eh kein empfang ist(zum glück)und höre meine playlists die ich schon seit jahren(jahrzehnte) auch für alle kumpels aufm pc zusammenbau und ziehs auf usb.früher kassetten,dann cds und mp3s...........

Ich würde es sehr feiern, wann man Videos vom USB Stick abspielen könnte.

Da über das 4G Modul immer nur 480P geht und nicht alles verfügbar ist. Da das Auto denkt, dass man in Texas ist.

Das 5G-Modul sollen wir ONE-Fahrer ja noch als benefit bekommen ... Tschuldigung, war kurz weg, von sowas träum' ich sonst nur nachts !

Hallo; tolle Beschreibung - schön zu sehen das auch meine Meldungen genau identisch sind mit den Deinen !!! Das Licht hinten nervt ... die anderen Fehler 7Dinge hatt eich auch alle schon - von daher bin ich sehr optimistisch das die bei Fisker zum größten Teil bekannt sind und hoffentlich 90% davon mit dem 2.0 Update endlich verschwinden !!! Drücke uns allen die Daumen .... ansonsten liebe ich dieses Auto - es ist und bleibt unique....;-)

Leute ich fahre seit 2 Tagen 2.0

ohne Fehler, es ist ein geiles Auto

werde bald einen 2 kaufen

Zitat von ufa

Leute ich fahre seit 2 Tagen 2.0

ohne Fehler, es ist ein geiles Auto

werde bald einen 2 kaufen

Ich bestelle mir nöchstes Jahr auch wieder einen wenn es Fisker dann noch gibt und die Sofware komplett ist.

Bis dahin bin ich erstmal raus.

Als PV Anlage Besitzer wäre es gut, wenn man den Stromstärke wie z.b. beim Tesla auf 5A runter regeln könnte und in kleineren Schritten. Würde die PV Ausbeute um einiges erhöhen